{"id":468,"date":"2023-09-24T10:09:29","date_gmt":"2023-09-24T10:09:29","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/ccnci.org\/?p=468"},"modified":"2023-09-24T10:09:29","modified_gmt":"2023-09-24T10:09:29","slug":"%e7%a5%9e%e5%ad%a6%e5%af%bc%e8%ae%ba_%e9%98%85%e8%af%bb_034b_%e6%97%a9%e6%9c%9f%e6%95%99%e4%bc%9a%e6%95%99%e4%b9%89%e7%9c%9f%e4%bc%aa%e8%be%a8","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/ccnci.org\/?p=468","title":{"rendered":"\u795e\u5b66\u5bfc\u8bba_\u9605\u8bfb_034B_\u65e9\u671f\u6559\u4f1a\u6559\u4e49\u771f\u4f2a\u8fa8"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><strong>\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 <\/strong><strong>034B\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 <\/strong><strong>\u65e9\u671f\u6559\u4f1a\u6559\u4e49\u771f\u4f2a\u8fa8\ufe55<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>\u5c3c\u897f\u4e9a\u4f1a\u8bae<\/strong><strong> (325 AD) <\/strong><strong>\u524d\u7684\u4e0a\u5e1d\u8bba\uff0c\u57fa\u7763\u8bba<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>TRUTH AND ERRORS IN THE EARLY CHURCH:<br \/>\n<\/strong><strong>THE DOCTRINE OF GOD AND THE DOCTRINE OF CHRIST<br \/>\n<\/strong><strong>BEFORE THE COUNCIL OF NICEA (325 A.D.) <\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>\u57fa\u7763\u662f\u4e0a\u5e1d <\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>CHRIST IS GOD<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<ol>\n<li>\u8bef\ufe55\u6709\u4e24\u4e2a\u300c\u9053\u300d\u3002<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p>F: There are two Logos\u2019es.\u00a0 (Origen.)<\/p>\n<p>\u6b63\ufe55\u300c\u9053\u300d\uff0c\u57fa\u7763\u662f\u4e00\u4f4d\u3002<\/p>\n<p>T: There is only one Logos, only one Christ.<\/p>\n<ol>\n<li>\u8bef\ufe55\u6709\u4e24\u4e2a\u300c\u9053\u300d\ufe55\u4e0a\u5e1d\u91cc\u9762\u7684\u80fd\u529b\uff0c\u548c\u9053\u6210\u8089\u8eab\u7684\u9053\uff08\u4e9a\u5229\u4e4c\uff09\u3002<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p>F\ufe55There are two Logos\u2019es: (1) the \u201cdivine reason\u201d or energy which is immanent in God (inside the Godhead); and (2) the incarnate Logos (Arius).<\/p>\n<p>\u6b63\ufe55\u4e09\u4f4d\u4e00\u4f53\u91cc\u7684\u7b2c\u4e8c\u4f4d\uff08\u5723\u5b50\uff09\u662f\u4e00\u4e2a\u4f4d\u683c\uff1b\u9053\u6210\u8089\u8eab\u5e76\u4e0d\u6539\u53d8\u8fd9\u4e8b\u5b9e\u3002<\/p>\n<p>T:\u00a0 The 2<sup>nd<\/sup> person of the Trinity is one person; the incarnation doesn\u2019t alter this fact.<\/p>\n<ol>\n<li>\u8bef\ufe55\u57fa\u7763\uff08\u4e0a\u5e1d\u7684\u300c\u9053\u300d\uff0c\u4e0a\u5e1d\u7684\u513f\u5b50\uff09= \u4ece\u5c5e\u7236\u4e0a\u5e1d\uff0c\u672c\u8d28\u4e0a\u4f4e\u4e8e\u7236\uff08\u5965\u5229\u91d1\uff09\u3002<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p>F: Christ\/the Logos\/the Son of God = subordinate to the Father in being.\u00a0 (Origen)<\/p>\n<p>\u6b63\ufe55\u57fa\u7763\uff08\u4e0a\u5e1d\u7684\u513f\u5b50\uff09= \u4e0e\u7236\u4e0a\u5e1d\u540c\u7b49\uff0c\u540c\u662f\u4e0a\u5e1d\uff0c\u540c\u6709\u5c0a\u8363\uff0c\u540c\u662f\u6c38\u6052\uff0c\u62e5\u6709\u6240\u6709\u4e0a\u5e1d\u7684\u5c5e\u6027\u3002\u4f46\u662f\uff0c\u5728\u6c38\u6052\u6551\u8d4e\u8ba1\u5212\u4e2d\uff0c\u5b50\u7518\u613f\u987a\u670d\u7236.\uff0c\u56e0\u6b64\uff0c\u5728\u6551\u8d4e\u8ba1\u5212\u4e2d\uff0c\u5b50\u4ece\u5c5e\u7236\u3002<\/p>\n<p>\u672c\u8d28\u4e0a\u7684 (ontological) \u4e09\u4f4d\u4e00\u4f53\ufe55\u7236\uff0c\u5b50\uff0c\u7075\u540c\u7b49\uff1b\u7236\u662f\u4e0a\u5e1d\uff0c\u5b50\u662f\u4e0a\u5e1d\uff0c\u7075\u662f\u4e0a\u5e1d\u3002<\/p>\n<p>\u6551\u8d4e\u8ba1\u5212\u4e0a (Economy) \u7684\u4e09\u4f4d\u4e00\u4f53\ufe55\u5b50\uff0c\u7075\u987a\u670d\u7236\u3002<\/p>\n<p>T: Christ\/the Son of God = equal with the Father in deity, glory, eternity, and in all their attributes.<\/p>\n<p>However in the plan of salvation, which the Father, Son and Spirit planned together in eternity, the Son decided to obey\/submit to the Father.\u00a0 Thus in the plan of salvation the Son is subordinate to the Father.<\/p>\n<p>Ontological Trinity: the 3 persons are equally God.\u00a0 The Father is God, the Son is God, the Spirit is God.<\/p>\n<p>Economic Trinity: in the plan of salvation, the Son and Spirit submit to the Father.<\/p>\n<ol>\n<li>\u8bef\ufe55\u7236\u751f\u5b50\u4e0d\u662f\u5fc5\u987b\u7684\u884c\u52a8(necessary act)\uff0c\u800c\u662f\u81ea\u7531\u7684\u884c\u52a8 (free act)\uff08\u5965\u5229\u91d1\uff09\u3002<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p>F: The Son\u2019s eternal generation (the Father begetting the Son) is not a necessary act, but a free and sovereign act of the Father.\u00a0 (Origen)<\/p>\n<p>\u6b63\ufe55\u7236\u751f\u5b50\u662f\u4e09\u4f4d\u4e00\u4f53\u5728\u6c38\u6052\u91cc\u5fc5\u987b\u7684\u5b58\u5728\u6a21\u5f0f\uff1b\u662f\u5fc5\u987b\u7684\uff0c\u4e0d\u662f\u81ea\u7531\uff08\u4e3b\u6743\uff09\u7684\u51b3\u5b9a\u3001\u8ba1\u5212\u3001\u884c\u52a8\u3002<\/p>\n<p>T: The Father begetting the Son (eternal generation) is the very mode of existence and relationship of the 3 persons of the Trinity; it is necessary, not a free, sovereign plan\/decision\/act.<\/p>\n<ol>\n<li>\u9519\u8bef\ufe55\u5723\u5b50\u662f\u80fd\u53d8\u7684\uff08\u4e9a\u5229\u4e4c\uff09\u3002<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p>F: The Son is mutable (changeable) (Arius).<\/p>\n<p>\u6b63\ufe55\u5723\u5b50\u4e0e\u5723\u7236\uff0c\u5723\u7075\u4e00\u6837\uff0c\u662f\u4e0d\u53d8\u7684\u795e\u3002<\/p>\n<p>T: The Son, like the Father and the Spirit, is God.\u00a0 He is unchangeable.<\/p>\n<ol>\n<li>\u8bef\ufe55\u300c\u9053\u300d\u4e0e\u8036\u7a23\uff08\u4eba\uff09\u7684\u7075\u9b42\u5728\u6c38\u6052\u91cc\u7ed3\u5408\uff08\u5965\u5229\u91d1\uff09\u3002<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p>F: The Logos and the human soul of Jesus = united in eternity\u00a0 (Origen).<\/p>\n<p>\u6b63\ufe55\u300c\u9053\u300d\uff08\u8036\u7a23\u57fa\u7763\u7684\u795e\u6027\uff0c\u4e09\u4f4d\u4e00\u4f53\u7684\u7b2c\u4e8c\u4f4d\uff09\u4e0e\u8036\u7a23\u57fa\u7763\u7684\u6574\u4e2a\u4eba\u6027\uff08\u8eab\u4f53\uff0c\u7075\u9b42\uff09\u5728\u9053\u6210\u8089\u8eab\u7684\u65f6\u8054\u5408\ufe55\u5723\u7075\u611f\u5b55\u9a6c\u91cc\u4e9a\u7684\u65f6\u5019\u3002<\/p>\n<p>T:\u00a0 The Logos\/divine nature of Christ (the second person of the Trinity) united with the entire human nature of Christ (soul and body) at the Incarnation \u2013 when the Holy Spirit came upon the Virgin Mary.<\/p>\n<ol>\n<li>\u8bef\ufe55\u57fa\u7763\u7684\u795e\u6027\u4e0e\u4eba\u6027\u6df7\u5408\uff0c\u7942\u662f\u6df7\u5408\u54c1\uff0c\u4e24\u6027\u5e76\u6ca1\u6709\u878d\u5408\u3002<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p>F: The divine nature and human nature of Christ was composite.\u00a0 There is no union, no fusion between the two natures.<\/p>\n<p>\u6b63\ufe55\u57fa\u7763\u7684\u795e\u6027\u4e0e\u4eba\u6027\u662f\u5b8c\u5168\u5730\u8054\u5408 (union)\u3002<\/p>\n<p>T: The divine and human nature of Christ united in perfect union.<\/p>\n<p><strong>\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>\u57fa\u7763\u662f\u4f4d\u683c\uff1b\u5b50\u662f\u7236\u5728\u6c38\u6052\u91cc\u751f\u7684 <\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>CHRIST IS PERSON; THE SON IS ETERNALLY BEGOTTEN OF FATHER <\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<ol>\n<li>\u8bef\ufe55\u57fa\u7763\u4e0e\u7236\u540c\u8d28\uff0c\u53ef\u662f\u7942\u4e0d\u662f\u4f4d\u683c\u3002\u53ea\u6709\u4e00\u4e2a\u4f4d\u683c\uff0c\u5c31\u662f\u7236\u3002\u7942\u53ea\u662f\u795e\u5723\u7684\u7406\u6027\u3001\u80fd\u529b\uff08\u7279\u571f\u826f\uff0c\u52a8\u529b\u795e\u683c\u552f\u4e00\u8bf4\ufe55\u6492\u6469\u6492\u4ed6\u4e4b\u4fdd\u7f57\uff09\u3002<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p>F: Christ is of the same substance as the Father, but he is not a person. God is only one person, i.e., the Father.\u00a0 He is divine power or divine reason (Tertullian, Dynamic Monarchianism: Paul of Samosata).<\/p>\n<p>\u6b63\ufe55\u57fa\u7763\u4e0e\u7236\u4e0a\u5e1d\u540c\u8d28\u3002\u7942\u662f\u4f4d\u683c\uff0c\u6b63\u5982\u7236\u662f\u4f4d\u683c\u3002\uff08\u4e0d\u8981\u628a\u300c\u4f4d\u683c\u300d\u5f53\u4f5c\u5c5e\u6027\u6765\u770b\u5f85\uff01\uff09\u5b50\u7684\u751f\u5b58\u5f62\u6001\u4e0e\u7236\u4e0d\u540c\uff08\u7279\u571f\u826f\uff09\u3002<\/p>\n<p>T: Christ is of the same substance as the Father.\u00a0 But he is a person just like the Father is a person. But the Son has a mode of existence which is different from the Father\u2019s (Tertullian).\u00a0 (But don\u2019t treat \u201cperson,\u201d \u201cpersonhood\u201d as attributes.)<\/p>\n<ol>\n<li>\u8bef\ufe55\u300c\u9053\u300d\u662f\u795e\u91cc\u7684\u7406\u6027\uff0c\u5230\u521b\u9020\u7b49\u65f6\u5019\u624d\u6709\u4f4d\u683c\u3002<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p>F: Logos is impersonal divine reason; only becomes personal at creation.<\/p>\n<p>\u6b63\ufe55\u300c\u9053\u300d\uff08\u5b50\uff09\u5728\u6c38\u6052\u91cc\u5c31\u662f\u4f4d\u683c\u3002<\/p>\n<p>T: Logos (Son) is person in eternity, from eternity.<\/p>\n<ol>\n<li>\u8bef\ufe55\u5b50\u4e0e\u7236\u540c\u8d28\uff0c\u53ef\u662f\u53ea\u6709\u7236\u6709\u5168\u90e8\u7684\u672c\u8d28\uff08\u7279\u571f\u826f\uff09\u3002<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p>F: The Son and the Father have the same substance, but only God the Father has all the substance (Tertullian).<\/p>\n<p>\u6b63\ufe55\u5b50\u4e0e\u7236\u540c\u8d28\uff0c\u5b50\u4e0e\u7236\u540c\u6709\u6240\u6709\u4e0a\u5e1d\u7684\u672c\u6027\u3002<\/p>\n<p>T: The Son and the Father are of the same substance.\u00a0 Each has full divine nature (complete divine substance).<\/p>\n<ol>\n<li>\u8bef\ufe55\u7236\u521b\u9020\u5b50\uff08\u4e9a\u5229\u4e4c\uff09\u3002\u5b50\u662f\u7236\u4ece\u65e0\u6709\u521b\u9020\u51fa\u6765\u7684\uff08\u4e9a\u5229\u4e4c\u6d3e\uff0c\u5728\u5c3c\u897f\u4e9a\u4f1a\u8bae\uff09\u3002<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p>F: The Son is created (Arius).\u00a0 The Father created the Son. The Father created the Son out of nothing (Arians, at Council of Nicea).<\/p>\n<p>\u6b63\ufe55\u5b50\u4e0e\u7236\u540c\u521b\u9020\u5b87\u5b99\u3002\u7236\u751f\u5b50\uff0c\u4e0d\u662f\u521b\u9020\u5b50\u3002<\/p>\n<p>T: The Son is Co-Creator with the father of the universe.\u00a0 The Father begets the Son, the Father did not create the Son.<\/p>\n<ol>\n<li>\u8bef\ufe55\u7236\u751f\u5b50\uff0c\u662f\u6c38\u6052\u91cc\u7684\u4f5c\u4e3a\uff08\u5965\u5229\u91d1\uff09\u3002\u5b50\u6709\u5f00\u59cb\u5b58\u5728\u7684\u65f6\u523b\uff1b\u6709\u4e00\u6bb5\u65f6\u95f4\u5b50\u5e76\u4e0d\u5b58\u5728\uff08\u7279\u571f\u826f\uff09\u3002<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p>F: The Father begets the Son as an eternal act (Origen).\u00a0 The Son has a beginning; there was a time when the Son\/Logos was not (Tertullian).<\/p>\n<p>\u6b63\ufe55\u7236\u5728\u6c38\u6052\u91cc\u751f\u5b50\uff1b\u5b50\u6ca1\u6709\u5f00\u59cb\u5b58\u5728\u7684\u65f6\u523b\u3002\u6240\u6709\u4e0a\u5e1d\u6240\u300c\u8ba1\u5212\u300d\uff0c\u6240\u4f5c\u7684\u300c\u4f5c\u4e3a\u300d\uff0c\u90fd\u662f\u4e09\u4f4d\u4e00\u4f53\u4e00\u8d77\u4f5c\u7684\u300c\u8ba1\u5212\u300d\u4e0e\u300c\u4f5c\u4e3a\u300d\u3002<\/p>\n<p>T: The Father begets the Son in eternity; the Son has no beginning.\u00a0 Every \u201cplan\u201d and \u201cact\u201d of God, is the plan\/act of the three persons in the Trinity together.<\/p>\n<p>\u4ece\u6765\u6ca1\u6709\u4e00\u523b\uff0c\u5b50\u4e0d\u662f\uff08\u4e0d\u5b58\u5728\uff09\u7684\u3002<\/p>\n<p>There was never a moment when the Son was not.<\/p>\n<p><strong>\u4e09\u4f4d\u4e00\u4f53<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>THE TRINITY<\/strong><\/p>\n<ol>\n<li>\u8bef\ufe55\u4e09\u4f4d\u4e00\u4f53\u7684\u4e09\u4f4d\uff0c\u597d\u50cf\u620f\u5267\u91cc\u7684\u6f14\u5458\uff0c\u89d2\u8272\uff0c\u751a\u81f3\u50cf\u9762\u5177\u3002\uff08\u5f62\u4f53\u4e0a\u7684\u795e\u683c\u552f\u4e00\u8bf4\uff0c\u5373\ufe55\u6492\u4f2f\u6d41\u4e3b\u4e49\uff1b\u53c2\ufe55\u5468\u8054\u534e\uff0c\u300a\u4fe1\u5f92\u795e\u5b66\u300b\u3002\uff09<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p>F: The three persons of the Godhead are like three actors\/roles in a drama, or one actor wearing three masks.\u00a0\u00a0 (Modalism, or Modalistic Monarchianism, i.e., Sabellius; cf.: Rev. Chow Lien-hwa.)<\/p>\n<p>\u6b63\ufe55\u4e09\u4f4d\u4e00\u4f53\u7684\u4e09\u4f4d\uff0c\u6bcf\u4e00\u4f4d\u90fd\u662f\u4f4d\u683c\uff0c\u6709\u522b\u4e0e\u5176\u4ed6\u4e24\u4f4d\uff1b\u6bcf\u4f4d\u90fd\u662f\u4e0a\u5e1d\u3002<\/p>\n<p>T: There are three distinct persons in the Trinity, but there is only one God.<\/p>\n<ol>\n<li>\u8bef\ufe55\u5723\u7236\u9053\u6210\u8089\u8eab\uff0c\u88ab\u9489\u5728\u5341\u5b57\u67b6\u4e0a\u3002\uff08\u5723\u7236\u53d7\u82e6\u8bf4\u3002\uff09<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p>F: The Father became Incarnate, hung on the cross.\u00a0 (Patripassianism.)<\/p>\n<p>\u6b63\ufe55\u5723\u5b50\u9053\u6210\u8089\u8eab\u3002<\/p>\n<p>T: The Son became Incarnate.<\/p>\n<ol>\n<li>\u8bef\ufe55\u4e0a\u5e1d\u662f\u4e09\u4f4d\u4e00\u4f53\uff0c\u300c\u4e00\u4f53\u300d\u6216\u300c\u540c\u8d28\u300d\u5c31\u50cf\u6ce5\u571f\uff0c\u91d1\uff0c\u94f6\uff0c\u6728\u5934\u4e00\u6837\u3002<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p>F: God is three persons in one substance: substance is like clay, gold, silver, wood.<\/p>\n<p>\u6b63\ufe55\u4e09\u4e2a\u4f4d\u683c\u7684\u300c\u4f4d\u683c\u300d\uff0c\u548c\u4e00\u4f53\u7684\u300c\u4f53 \/ \u8d28\u300d\uff0c\u8fd9\u4e24\u4e2a\u89c2\u5ff5\u90fd\u662f\u5e7f\u6cdb\u7684\u3002\u6211\u4eec\u53ef\u4ee5\u8bf4\ufe55\u4e0a\u5e1d\u662f\u4e09\u4e2a\u4f4d\u683c\uff0c\u540c\u65f6\u662f\u4e00\u4e2a\u4f4d\u683c\u3002\u4e0d\u8fc7\u5f88\u5c11\u4eba\u8fd9\u6837\u8bf4\uff0c\u53ea\u6709\u8303\u6cf0\u5c14 (Cornelius Van Til, 20\u4e16\u7eaa\u6700\u4f1f\u5927\u7684\u62a4\u6559\u5bb6) \u8fd9\u6837\u8bf4\u3002<\/p>\n<p>T: \u201cPerson\u201d (persona, hypostatis) and \u201csubstance\u201d (ousia) mean \u201csomething\u201d \u2013 God is \u201cthree of something\u201d and \u201cone of something.\u201d\u00a0 We can say God is three persons and one person.\u00a0 Very few people say it this way, only Cornelius Van Til, the greatest apologist in the 20<sup>th<\/sup> century, says it this way.<\/p>\n<p>\u7f51\u7edc\u5723\u7ea6<a href=\"https:\/\/ccnci.org\">ccnci.org<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"mailto:\u4e2d\u534e\u5c55\u671b\u5723\u7ea6\u5b66\u9662HorizonCovenant@gmail.com\">\u4e2d\u534e\u5c55\u671b\u5723\u7ea6\u5b66\u9662HorizonCovenant@gmail.com<\/a>\uff08PayPal\uff09<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 034B\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 \u65e9\u671f\u6559\u4f1a\u6559\u4e49\u771f\u4f2a\u8fa8\ufe55 \u5c3c\u897f\u4e9a\u4f1a\u8bae (325 AD) \u524d\u7684\u4e0a\u5e1d\u8bba\uff0c\u57fa\u7763\u8bba TRUT [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[15],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-468","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-15"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/ccnci.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/468","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/ccnci.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/ccnci.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/ccnci.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/ccnci.org\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=468"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/ccnci.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/468\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/ccnci.org\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=468"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/ccnci.org\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=468"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/ccnci.org\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=468"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}